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Sarah Romer's avatar

"Welcome to our hell, Ross. You have caught a glimpse into the reality of every working woman in America. That panic you felt, the sense that the system punishes you for stepping away to care for your family? Women live it every single day across the country." YES, Reshma! I thought the same thing when I listened yesterday.

What left me scratching my head after the interview was about the broader goal of our workplaces. What are they for? If the "workplace" is simply a vehicle for driving shareholder value and financial return, then yeah, maybe we "ruined" it by suggesting everybody pump the breaks, look around and register the impact our institution are having on individuals, families, society, the planet, etc... Maybe our instinct to optimize for the collective over the bottom line does erode corporate profits?

But so what? If we are going to truly honor the contributions of our women in the workplace, we need broader measuring stick for what makes an organization successful, beyond the P&L.

Peggy Ganong's avatar

I read the entire, dreadful, version that appeared in the NYT, and then saw on video the exchange between the two conservative "feminists" over what virtues - if any - could be described as feminine. I then realized that the difference between these two conservative feminists is that one has internalized patriarchal misogyny and hates women deeply (Andrews), while the other (Sargeant) is comfortable with hierarchies based on 19th century pseudoscience about the biological basis of gender roles and natural (white) male superiority. Elsewhere, I found a piece by Andrews about how "HR" and then "HR ladies" (her term) have ruined the workplace by offering workers a safe place to express their grievances. She truly is a Dickensian nightmare villain, steeped in the female-hating right-wing Catholic tradition. To see her sneer at Sargeant in the video is to gain access into her dark soul.

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